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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<description>I think the association of youth with music is a really recent thing in Western culture.  For centuries, music was something that everyone was expected to enjoy and participate in.  Now that I think about it, the whole &quot;music is for adolescents&quot; thing really only dates back to the whole phenomenon of marketing for teenagers and the pseudo-oppositional culture of &quot;rebellion&quot; that started in the early rock&#039;n&#039;roll era--basically taking something &quot;shocking&quot; that your parents are supposed to disapprove of and commodifying / marketing it to young people as some kind of ready-made identity.  Which of course didn&#039;t last that long before getting undermined by aging baby boomers.  The whole &quot;this is not your father&#039;s Oldsmobile&quot; ad campaign comes to mind.  Anyways, prior to that, sure, people might have associated excessive preoccupation with music with youth, but music wasn&#039;t constructed as this thing supposedly made by and for the under-30 set.  

Personally, I don&#039;t think I appreciate music any less now that I&#039;m older than I did when I was a teenager.  Back then there was still so much to learn about it that it was extra exciting, and I have gotten a little jaded in some ways.  But my knowledge of music and the experiences I&#039;ve had also make my current experience of music richer, which is a totally ok trade-off in my book.  

The thing that bugs me about that grups article is the totally unexamined class privilege aspect.  It&#039;s all about these people with fancy jobs pulling in a way bigger salary than the average person, who live in New York City and places like that.  But they take all these generalizations from them like &quot;the generation gap is closing&quot; and stuff.  Maybe in these certain groups, with certain interests who make certain amounts of money and are all white.  But is that really true elsewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the association of youth with music is a really recent thing in Western culture.  For centuries, music was something that everyone was expected to enjoy and participate in.  Now that I think about it, the whole &#8220;music is for adolescents&#8221; thing really only dates back to the whole phenomenon of marketing for teenagers and the pseudo-oppositional culture of &#8220;rebellion&#8221; that started in the early rock&#8217;n'roll era&#8211;basically taking something &#8220;shocking&#8221; that your parents are supposed to disapprove of and commodifying / marketing it to young people as some kind of ready-made identity.  Which of course didn&#8217;t last that long before getting undermined by aging baby boomers.  The whole &#8220;this is not your father&#8217;s Oldsmobile&#8221; ad campaign comes to mind.  Anyways, prior to that, sure, people might have associated excessive preoccupation with music with youth, but music wasn&#8217;t constructed as this thing supposedly made by and for the under-30 set.  </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t think I appreciate music any less now that I&#8217;m older than I did when I was a teenager.  Back then there was still so much to learn about it that it was extra exciting, and I have gotten a little jaded in some ways.  But my knowledge of music and the experiences I&#8217;ve had also make my current experience of music richer, which is a totally ok trade-off in my book.  </p>
<p>The thing that bugs me about that grups article is the totally unexamined class privilege aspect.  It&#8217;s all about these people with fancy jobs pulling in a way bigger salary than the average person, who live in New York City and places like that.  But they take all these generalizations from them like &#8220;the generation gap is closing&#8221; and stuff.  Maybe in these certain groups, with certain interests who make certain amounts of money and are all white.  But is that really true elsewhere?</p>
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