Like many of you I’ve been watching the Iraq and Najaf coverage with interest. It is challenging to try to read between the lines about what is happening. You have to sift through so many news reports to distill a semblance of what is actually going on, and you have to do a significant amount of research to achieve the most rudimentary amount of context. It seems like media coverage is impossible to obtain from a disinterested and contextual point of view. Anyway, whenever you see the Shiia marching with their portraits of Sadr you may have also noticed the presence of depictions of Imam Ali, the fourth Caliph of Islam, who the Shiia regard as the true successor of Muhammad. Ali was betrayed and killed much like another famous religious figure. See the image below for a visual comparison of popular depictions of Ali (left) and Jesus Christ (right).
hi
how are you
tell me some FUCKEN ANSWERS for the FUCKEN christians,indinusims,etc except for the MUSLIMS
ye sunnat-e-nabi hay kaho ya ali madad —Mr. CXY u know what reaction of your abuse ? they will reply you , and wat happen if they use same word for muslim ? so plez dear bro control yourself
hi iam soooo sorry ?
Salam Alkum(peace be upon u)
well as a Muslim Shia myself I’d like to add that according to Shia Muslims Imam Ali (as) did look like Prophet Jesus (as) this is a fact our beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh&hp) has said ” if u want to see the son of Mary(Prophet Jesus) look into the face of Ali Ibn Abi Talib
that’s news to me.
Well yes but Muslims aso believe in Jesus but as another prophet
HI,
Just to let u know, even tho we Shia believe that Ali pbuh is the first successor of Prophet Mohammad pbuh, we do not regard him to be a prphet or any such higher than an Imam/Caliph.
You should read up on your history before you make these comments. We beleive him higher than prohphets. He is one of the 14 infallibles. He is al insan in the koran. Many traditions say he is al insan.
Imam Ali (as) is regarded by the Shia as an Imam, but most people do not know what an Imam is. The Prophet Muhammad (sas) said: “The likeness of Ali to me is that of Aaron to Moses, except that there will be no prophet after me.” According to the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (sas), Imam Ali of course did not receive revelation. However, he had all other qualities of infallibility. Interestingly enough, he was worshipped by some ignorant people at that time. They witnessed him performing miricles as prophets do, due to their lack of faith, they worshipped him. There are many cases, like the battle of Khaduk, Khaibar, and many others where these situations showed their colors, according to both Shia and Sunni sources, where Imam Ali performed superhuman tasks. The quote of the Prophet Muhammad (sas) suffices: “The triumph of Ali on the day of Khanduk, is greater than the worship of all of humanity and the jinns until the day of judgement.”
well i would like to tell all of u that we are all muslim!
Imam Syafiee, Hanafi, Maliki, or what ever..as long as we say there is no gao but allah and muhammad is the messager of allah….
hi there just to let u know that drawing pictures of the Imams (A.S.) is haram. :)
Salam to all brothers and sisters, muslim or not muslim,
Firstly, if you cannot begin to grasp the unsurpassed understanding and intellect aswell as courage and strentgh shown only for the sake of Allah by Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib, then what chance do you have of understanding his overwhelming character, which cannot even be epitomised in a picture or graphic of any physical representation. It doesnt matter what he looked like if you do not wish to try and grasp his concepts for a peacefull world, of piety and understanding in tolerance and the vast rivers of knowledge which would flow therin…then you do not have to look unto him but at his personality and SUPERB judge in char…just one of his many sayings..”Our affairs are attached to the destiny decreed by Allah, even our best plans may lead us to destruction.” So beware what you proclaim without truth, because the only truth is Allah and he is ALL knowing ALL seeing…Peace be with you….on the day of rekoning brothers and sisters.
Peace be upon those who follow the revealed righteous guidance,
as a muslim, we should all adhere to the sunnah of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the practices of those among his companions, whom all know best of his (saw)’s sunnah. Certainly, Ali (ra) is of the greatest from the sahabah, but we should not elevate him unto such a level that which was not practically done during the lifetime of Rasoolullah (saw). we must also remeber that the Prophet (saw) said:
“If I were to take an intimate friend other than my Lord, I would take Abu Bakr. But what binds us is the brotherhood of Islam and its love. Let no door [of the Prophet’s mosque] remain open except Abu Bakr’s”
In additon, the Messenger of Allah praised many other Sahabah, and therefore, we should not single out only one sahaba. furtheremore, the concept of Imaamah is a bid’ah and innovation in the deen. if it were so important to the aqeedah, why is it not mentioned even once in the Qur’an? however, the Allah does mention Abu Bakr in the Qur’an:
“The second of two when the two were in the cave, and he said unto his companion: Grieve not” (9:40) which refers, by Consensus, to the Prophet and Abu Bakr. Allah further praised him above the rest by saying: “Those who spent and fought before the victory are not upon a level (with the rest of you).” (57:10)
i don’t want everyone to worship Abu Bakr (astaghfirullah), but we must understand the rankings of all the sahabah (ra) in a comprehensive manner.
wassalam
Follower of the Sunnah Of Muhammad (SAW)
Yeah it was. look it up in history books. Imam ali was mentioned in the azaan until i think umar or uthman stopped it. These ppl were power hungry. The prophet not once but on manny occasions said that ali is my succsessor. THat isw wwhy we curse abu bakr and hwo do you know these verses are about abu bakr.
Asalaam aliyokom wa rahmat alaah wa barakaatoho
do any of u know what the so called {sahaba} did after the death of sayedna Mohammad {sala laah aliyhe wa AALIHI wa salam } ????????????????
do your research properly . they attacked imam Ali's {aliyhi salaam} house and caused his wife FATIMA {aliyha salaam} the daughter of the sayedna Mohammad to have a miscarriage .
……….sahaba………..hemmmmmmmmmmmm
i wonder ………..
salam brother just a few things for you to bear in Mind IMAM ALI is the divider of HEAVEN AND HELL…………
Abu Bakr has no significant role in the hereafter,,,,,and remember Abu Bakr only became the calipha by force ……please read the history of SHIAA AND SUNNAH..
You feel that way about Abu Bakr is perhaps you only haVE READ ABOUT him …
To be a a great person in islam you must read about all sects of islam otherwise the ODDS WOULD STACK AGAINST YOU AS YOU ARE NOT EMBEDDED WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE….KNOWLEDGE IS YOUR KEY TO THE TRUTH…..
Wa alaykum l salam..
i couldn't help notice the rational way in which u portrayed your opinion; i find i must acknowledge that :)
now, inshallah i will try to reply with equal rationality :)
firstly, regarding what u mentioned about Imamate or Wilayah not being mentioned in the Holy Quran, i must object. i hope u read Arabic, because i find Quran is the clearest in it: انما وليكم الله و رسوله والذين يقيمون الصلاة و يؤتون الزكاة و هم راكعون
in that Ayah, Wilayah is mentioned, specifically the Wilayah of Ali (as), him being the only one known to have payed Zakat in his prayer.
and regarding the ranks of the Prophet (saw)'s sahaba.. i would strongly advise you to read about Ali (as) at least as much as u have read about the others, from Shiite sources as well. u will find that most Shiites use Sunni references in their arguments :) (we are known for the way we negotiate).
now, the Ayah you mentioned refers to the Prophet and Abu Bakr as we agree..
however, logically, the Prophet reassured him, not vice versa.
otherwise, u would be implying that Abu Bakr had greater belief, greater “yaqeen” in the presence of the Almighty, which is not possible, as all Muslims would agree.
inasmuch, the Ahlul Bayt were honored with many Ayah's, icluding Surat Al Insan entirely. i will not mention more details, but again, i beseech u to do more personal research, u have nothing to lose.
and if u r truly convinced of the path u have chosen, u will not mind reading books of Shiite scholars regarding these matters, and reading them will either strengthen your faith in what u believe, or perhaps guide u to a better path.
May Allah be ur guide and the guide of all, and may He open your heart, and mine, to the true path of righteousness..
and Salam.
point 1) the prophet appointed ali(as) in ghadder khumm infront of tens of thousands, as your khalifah after me
point2) if you reject that the prophet chose ali, then he didn’t have an heir, because he never said abu bakr is your khalifah, and if thats TRUE then abu bakr is smarter than the prophet(astaghforellah) because he knew omar should succeed, but the prophet of god couldn’t choose who should succeed.
point3) if you believe ali to be the fourth rightful khalifa, then why don’t you follow what he said, to follow the 11 that will come after him??
one last thing: as we often say, mostly regarding leaders, they keep their friends close, but their enemies closer. and yout own blood is not enemy.
so answer yourself as to who the enemies are!
that abubakr story with the doors open is all wrong, it was mola ali’s door to remain open. This is what my mother told me, and my mother’s father was in the olliyah! HE WAS A DESCENDANT OF hazrat syed abuld qadir jilani al hassani wal hussaini! they are both olliyah and u r giving false information! i am a syed from my fathers side. WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF IMAM ALI, YOU CANNOT BECOME A WALIULAH!
Dude.Â
You need to grow up. You are talking nonsense. You don’t know anything. Really. You might be forgives for telling lies to others, but for your own mind’s sake: don’t tell lies to yourself.Â
And if you are a follower of Sunnah, would you please mind considering giving up 1400 hundred year old fashion statements? You folks look like monkeys. Aping the Prophet without understanding a word he meant. But then again, fighting with you draws me away from Allah. Peace be upon you!Â
also , the quran does not say abu bakr, so u have no proof that was abu bakr or ali. Quran gives hints for everything. I bet abu bakr was the victor of khaibar also. And he was not the one who the prophet said ,WHOSE EVER MASTER I AM ” Â Â Â Â ” IS HIS MASTER! what about the property of fadak! he stole it and changed the prophets words. HIS DAUGHTER HAS A HIGHER RANKING THAN HIM!
To the person above, please read Peshwar nights. Good book.
Someone earlier said that we are all muslim… That is only the first part my dear friend. Stop sugar coating it, and face reality. Don’t be afraid, do it while your souls are still in your body and while you still have a chance! You cannot build half a bridge and still get to the other side. Both parts must be completed. You must not only be a muslim, but you must understand that Imam Ali a.s. was the true succesor to The prophet Mohamed s.a.s.
The Sunnah follow people who burnt down the house of the Daughter of the prophet, killing her unborn child when she was slammed by the door of the invading sunnah! The sunnah say you will have a gauranteed ticket to heaven, if you kill 7 Shia! What are these childish, unjust teachings? How can the Sunnah deny the crack in the Kaaba, that reopens every year? This is surely where Imam Ali a.s. was born.
You clearly show your ignorance by saying that Imam Ali a.s. and the family of the prophet are not mentiond in the qur’an. Every sentance in the qur’an has not only the plain meaning, but an alternate or multiple meanings. To decipher the qur’an is a very challenging task. Oh yeah, it never says Abu Bakrs name either.
shiism is idolatry of ali [as]
No it isnt. You think that because you dont understand the power of allah. Your understanding of allah is less than my nderstanding of imam ali.
Wrong.
well 4 ur big fat stupid information imam ali(asw)is i recon better than abu baker and jesus and abu baker wasnt related 2 da prophet 4 gods sake he just barged in out of da blue and stole imam alis place so don u fukn basterds bulll crap about IMAM ALI FUK ALL U SUNNIS AND UE DA TERRISTS AROUN HERE UR DA KILLERS IN IRAQ U FUKN DIK HEADS
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO ALL… SOME HAVE MENTIONED ALOT OF GOOD THINGS AND SOME OTHERS ARE JUST BLINDED BY THEIR HATE TO IMMAN ALI AND HIS BELOVED FAMILY… AS THE PROPHET ONCE SAID THAT ” ADAM WAS SITTING IN HEAVEN WHEN WAS CREATED BY THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH, AND ADAM SAW FIVE HUMAN BEINGS WALK IN FRONT OF HIM, AND ADAM ASKED ALLAH, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE WHEN YOU HAVE SAID TO ME I”M THE FIRST HUMAN TO CREAT, ALLAH SAID TO ADAM THOSE ARE YOUR CHILDREN, MOHAMAD (ASW), ALI HIS SUCCESSOR, FATIMA THE DAUGHTER OF MOHAMMAD AND THE WIFE OF ALI, AND HASSAN AND HUSSAIN…THEN ALLAH SAID TO ADAM, I HAVE CREATED THESE FIVE PEOPLE BEFORE I HAVE CREATED THE UNIVERSE 2 THOUSAND YEARS…”” MAY ALLAH BLESS US ALL THEIR BLESSING…
HOWEVER, MY COMMENT IS FOR SARAH, EVERYONE KNOWS WHO ALI IS AND FOR THAT ALL MANKIND HATE US SHIITE FOR BELIEVING IN GIM… WAS IT NOT ALI THAT TORE DOWN THE DOOR F KABAR OR THE MAN THAT STOOD IN EVERY BTTLE FIGHTING SIDE BY SIDE THE PROHET…
LET US LET PUT OUR DIFFERECES ASIDE AND LET US REMEMBER THAT “THERE IS NO ALLAH BUT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH AND THAT MOHAMMAD IS HIS FINAL AND BELOVED PROPHET AND OR MESSANGER.
ALLAH BLESS US ALL AND BE WITH ALL PALISTINIANS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IRAQIS…
SALAM BROTHER U HVE SUM INTERESTING INFOR…CAN YOU PLEASE EMAIL THE FULL VERSION OF THE STORY IN REGARDS TO PROP.ADAM (AS)AND ALLAH(SWT)
SALAM HANNAH
JUST ANOTHER THING… WHAT IS HAPPENING IN IRAQ AS FAR AS THE SUNNIS AND THE KURDS ARE NOT ALLOWING THE SHIITE TO RULE WELL THAT IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT IS THE SHIITE RULE THERE WILL BE PEACE AND COMFORT TO ALL BECAUSE THE SHIITE ALWAYS LOVED OTHERS AND LIVED BY THE PROPHETS SAYING AND THOSE OF ALI’S AND THEIR BELOVED FAMILY… AND THAT IS NOT WHAT MOST SUNNIS AND OTHERS WOULD WANT BECAUSE THEY JUST WANT POWER AND MONEY JUST LIKE OMAR, ABU BAKIR, AND OTHMAN…
AND YES DO REMEMBER THE AL-QUABA OPENING AND THE SWORD OF AL-FIQUAR THAT HAS GIVING ISLAM ITS PROPER NAME AND PLACE ON EARTH…
IT IS ALL BECAUSE OF ALI THAT WE EXCIST NOT ANY OTHER MANKIND…
HERE ARE SOME OF THE PROPHETS SAYINGS OF IMAM ALI(AS)
1)The Prophet said, “There is no sword but Dhul-Fiqar, and there is no man but ALI.â€
2) The Prophet said, “The carrier of my flag in this life and the Hereafter is ALI.â€
3) The Prophet said, “The truest believers are three: the believer during the time of Al Ya-Sin,
the believer during the time of Pharaoh, and the best of all, ALI.â€
4)
The Prophet said, “The caller will call out on the Day of Judgment, ‘O Muhammad, blessed
be your father, and Ibrahim, and blessed be your brother, ALI.â€
5) The Prophet said, “Every prophet has an executor and inheritor, and my executor and
inheritor is ALI.â€
6) The Prophet said, “We were created from the same tree, I and ALI .â€
7) The Prophet said, “The most knowledgeable person in my nation after me is ALI .â€
8) The Prophet said, “Embellish your gatherings by mentioning ALI .â€
9) The Prophet said, “I am the warner, and the guide after me is ALI.â€
10) The Prophet said, “There would not be one sufficient for Fatima if God had not created ALI.â€
11) The Prophet said, “For the one who believes and trusts in me, I recommend the sainthood
of ALI.â€
12) The Prophet said, “The first of you to reach the Pond is the first of you who accepted Islam: A
LI.â€
13) The Prophet said, “There is a tree in Paradise called Tuba. Its roots are in the house of ALI,
and its branches are ALI .â€
14) The Prophet said, “ALI is the distinguisher between truth and falsehood.â€
15) The Prophet said, “The hand of ALI and my hand are equal in justice.â€
16) The Prophet said, “ALI is the Imam of goodness, the fighter against iniquity, the helper of
those who come to his aid, and the deserter of those who desert him.â€
17) The Prophet said, “ALI is the Imam of the pious, the prince of believers, and the leader of
the resplendent.â€
18) The Prophet said, “ALI is to me what Harun was to Musa.â€
19) The Prophet said, “ALI holds a right over this nation like the right of a father over his son.â€
20) The Prophet said, “ALI is with the Qur’an, and the Qur’an is with Ali.â€
21) The Prophet said, “ALI is the door of my knowledge, and the one who will clarifies for my
nation that which I was sent with.â€
22) The Prophet said, “Love for ALI is faith, and hatred for Ali is hypocrisy.â€
23) The Prophet said, “ALI is the partition between Heaven and Hell.â€
24) The Prophet said, “Mentioning ALI is a form of worship, and looking upon him is a form of
worship.â€
25) The Prophet said, “ALI stands in relation to me as my head to my body.â€
26) The Prophet said, “The verse of purification was revealed concerning five people: myself,
ALI, Hassan, Hussein, and Fatima.”
27) The Prophet said, “Fatima is more beloved to me than you, oh ALI, and you are dearer to
me than her.â€
READ IT AND WEEP IT PEPLE THAT IS WHAT THE LEAST THE PROPHET COULD SAY ABOUT ALI…
ISLAM IS ALI AND ALI IS ISLAM THAT IS WHAT I HAVE T SAY ABOUT THAT…
THANK YOU…
to my understanding imam ali was more than a human he was da base of islam after mohmed asw ali was the camander of the faitfull as the profit said i ame the city og knowedge and ali is the door for whom ever wats the knowledge and truth come to it from the door and euthman was an istegater so was abu baker did he come to ali after gader and al wada speech and say baka bakn ya ali ur have be chosen to be the camander of ali muslims
ali could have killed them all but was told to not didnt the fought aganist ali
his sone was killed cuz he was his sone we didnt kill u cuz we haited u but cuz of the haterd towerd ur dad ali is real islam first muslim why r we being killed and hated by evry one and the whole world is a gainst us and agains the shiah revolution in iran and it cuz we love ali and ali was so strung that even death couldnt face him it hide behind a caward like ibn molgem
if any thing ali is da best
True, but prophet Mohammad is an exception of course.
Ya Ali Madad
Shias are the best among all the muslims
i were an scholar of al-sunnah
but now i was converted to shiaism b/c that only the twelve Imams are the rightful successors of Muhamad S.A.W.W.
and others Qadrias as we are, are not syeds b/c abdul qadir jilani our ancestor is not an enough and nice personality of islam . He was a son of a thief and born from his father before his father’s nikah with his mother.
Sallam ba Hamma( Hello 2all).
Say ALI MULLAH and think for a minut about his personality. you will be finding your self with him. He is key of all success.
where every you go ALI MULLAH is with you, if you really trust your thoughts.
Ask for help from ALI MULLAH when ever you are in danger,he will help you.
I am so LUCKY that I am SHEYA of ALI MULLAH.
Relating to mr Nasir Qadri’s opinion about abdul qadir jeelani, I ask in which books it is written?
Anser me
Noman Attari
Relating to mr Nasir Qadri’s opinion about Abdul Qadir Jilani, I ask in which book it is written?
salaam. and may peace and blessings be to you all.
I am really disappointed after reading some of the above contents. shiaism and sunnieism is a way of life. we can not kill each other for something that happened some 1400 years ago. I am a practicing shia, and I love all of the imams. we should take their lives and use them as examples in our life. we as muslims she be united and stand as one against the real nowday oppressers. don’t you think that israel and the us want us to fight. thay want us to be in constant war. they want us to hate each other and not concentrate on them as they go about their own political agendas. again I am a shia, but that label shouldn’t separate me from my fellow mjslims. when I read comments like the one above (sarah) I feel disappointed. sunnies are our brothers, like we are to them. muslims living in the us should try to bridge the connection between the two.
thank you for your time
I am a ismaili shia,the aga khan is the 49th direct desendant of ali through Imam Hussein,Imam of the time,to shias please look into the ismaili web page for more infor of the family of our prophet,also to the sunnis read and build your knowledge as we are all of the same flock.the Aga Khan is a fine example of charity to all muslims who’s decendants from Esmail to Imam Moez( the Fatimeds of Egypt)th the assasins of 13th century ,49 imams direct (hand on hand as the famous Nasir Khusraw said the rope of Allah more infor on their sites,read the book about Imam Jaffer sadiq regarding the light sura (43/25 light upon light imam to imam,both Imam Bakir and Son jafer Sadiq split open knowledge as our beloved Prophet once told Jabir his companion as he watched the holy Prophet play with his grandson,”jabir” you will live long enough to pay greetings to his grandsons who will split open knowledge, Jabir did live long enough to pass the greetings see book by Arzina R lalani on “early Shia Thought ” I read this book many times and the more I read the more I fell in love with the pure family of our Prophet peace be on him . Hanabal was himself a student of Imam Bakir I am sure All sunnis love the family of our Prophet as much as we do and understanding our view on Imamat will be enhanceful.you know the problems we have today,it is ignorance the west have of Islam that we have so much trouble today,and pluralism is important to us as to the west of better understanding of us fellow Muslims,the Aga Khan Gives us guidence and help in living in the atomic age and deeper meaning of our Quran “Zarir(outer)batin(innner) meanings of our Book,the Aga Khan and his decendants have survived 49 generations in linear descent though persucutions I thank you for reading and Allah be with you Amin
 I am a ismaili shia,the aga khan is the 49th direct desendant of ali through Imam Hussein
LOLZ…. Brother why not make me your agha as I’m much more closely descended from Imam Ali via Imam Hussein than you current agha.
why are we comparing who looks like who when millions of muslims are dying everyday!Brothers and Sisters please spend your time in Dawah…spread the message of islam and stop the madness!
AWFUL…..I DON’T KNOW WHERE THIS IDEA CAME FROM…I STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS IS NOT ALI BUT I BELIEVE THE ONE WHO DRAWN THIS PICTURE MUST BE……….OUT OF HIS MIND.
h if you think that ali look like jesus christ u r not wrong
couse ali as we the true blood line the alevi people of wethe tribe of ali know him by his name as god himself couse ali mean the high one ali agle the most high so he is the father of the crist.
salam
just to let
u know that drawing pictures of the Imams (A.S.) is not good and we shias dont like it
one more thing allah is not a god
god is he who is superhuman being
allah is not humamn he created jesus and ali
allah is the true creator whom u shold worship any question u have againt the religion muslim i bet u will get the right ans but if i ask a question u might not have an answer
become muslim
then to become shia its easy to prove like a pice of cake ask me @ [email protected]
hii people i am shiite muslim imam ali i likes Imam Ali and Imam hussein they are wisest and strong and they have to kill inoncentemen but one day god will return justice against all which are vs we and the Muslims with helps of Imam mahdi for L Imam Ali and hussein I would give my life:d imam ali and imam hussein and prophete mohamad tey are my life and hezbollah and sayed hassan nasrallah :d
KHYBER KHYBER YA SAHNOON HEZBULLAHI QADIMOONÂ
we all all muslims, we are all ummah of prophet Muhammad(SAW). why we have to say that we are shia or sunni etc. we all beleive qiyaamah will come. and we will face our lord (allah subuhaanahu wata’ala). so we have to do right things. all muslims are relatives. all are brothers and sisters.
i got question in mind when i see that photo (saying that it was ali ibn abi talib(as). 4th caliph of islam). why we are practicing like christians who draws imaginary picture of Isa(jesus)(pbuh).they are the people who changed allah’s book (injeel) ,they are the people who says jesus is begotton son of god(some says jesus is god). i beleive, our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) has said †if u want to see the son of Mary(Prophet Jesus) look into the face of Ali Ibn Abi Talib”. it does not meant that the christian imaginary drawing is picture of jesus(pbuh).
Allah the exalted said Say , ” O People of the Scripture, do not exceed limits in your religion beyond the truth and do not follow the inclinations of a people who had gone astray before and misled many and have strayed from the soundness of the way.” [Al-Qur’ân:5 77]
Ali(raliallah anhu) said “With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from Rightfulness, and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from Rightfulness. The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course. So be with him and be with the great majority (of Muslims) because Allaah’s hand (of protection) is on keeping unity”.
* Kharijites who said that Imaam Ali was a disbeliever and they send Ibn Muljim to kill him and he did that.
* Shi’ia’s who said that he was infallible Imaam and Allaah had chosen him for leading Muslims . ect.
* Sunnis ( Majority of Muslims ) who said that he was a great companion of the prophet and he was a great leader to Muslims but Muslims had chosen him to be their leader not Allaah.
 * Shi’ia’s who said that he was infallible Imaam and Allaah had chosen him for leading Muslims . ect.
Errr.. Read the Quran please.. I forgot your ahl-e-sunnah so have nothing to do with the Quran for if you did you would have very, very swiftly realised that its not shias that say the above its the Quran so please see 33:33 & burn in this world & the next. For everyone else see below,
“Innamaa Yureedullahi liyudhibakum anir rijsi Ahlalbayti wa yotahirakum tatheera”
“Most surely Allah only desires that all impurities be struck away from you O People of the House and that you are purified a severe purification.”
1) This verse does NOT include the wives of the promise due to the masculine adjectives that have been used, ie, kum = 3 or more males.
As a general rule of Arabic Grammar where there is a mixed gathering & the majority being females then female adjectives shall be used but if it vice-versa like in the above verse then all the adjectives shall be male.
2) All historians, commentators etc are unanimous that the individuals who have been addressed in this verse are no more than Mohammed, Ali, Fatima, Hassan and Hussein.
So mr get your facts correct before your outbursts of verbal diarrhoea, get an education, do some research into the origins of YOUR own beliefs and then I’ll see you on the right side, the seeratul mustaqeem, the path of Haqq!!
WHEATHER THERE IS LIKENESS OR SO BETWEEN TWO PROPHETS OR SAINTS IS NOT THE NEED OF THE HOUR
IT IS WAHT YOU REALISE INSIDE YOU,SEE THE GOD INSIDE AS SUFIS SAY,,,,, AN AL HAQ,,,,,
KALYAN
hi
haha u serius ??? u mean son of GOD right.. How is he then executed or cruccified… :D well he was also a man not an ordinary BUT a PROPHET….. ALLAH IS THE ONLY ONE MUHAMMAD s.a.w AND ISA (jesus) A.s both were HIS PROPHETS
hi i am a christian
hi muhammad is a not prophet of allah jesus is the true son of god he is the holy men
jesus is true son of allah muhammad is a ordinary man he makes a quran the book of muhammad
ALLAH AKBAR WHICH MINS THE GOD IS THE GREATEST AND SON JESUS
On very high Mountain i Stood I Cried the Name of Imam ALI Oh ALI .. Lion of God King of Men Say my prayer to my God ALLAH
Every body knows that ALI is true HAQQQ Ali is Lion of God without Ali Omar Osman was nothing .. they have self told it so many times … islam is my deen mohammad is my prophet Quran is my way ali is my imam ahlol bayt is my love Jihad is my dream qibla is my direction PARADISE IS MY GOAL ya ali …. Samim Afghan Proud to ne SHia ( Haydare Karrar )
assalamualaikum……i juz hope,all of muslims around the world,stop fighting against each other…i m a sunni muslim…well,as u know,when i m called a sunni,i wil surely say that shiah is not right…i m sure,shiah followers are also like that….for 1400 years since our prophet muhammad and saiyidina ali left us,we keep fighting against each other…we hav forgotten that we believe in the same god,same prophet…maybe some of us forgot,that we r brothers…that’s why we are weak…our enemy always think how to defeat us…looking back into the past…..jews occupied palestine,that time,they hae nothing,only support from US and great britain…but now,they bcome so powerful,undefeated…if sunni and shia never want to unite,only god knows…i know that we all believe that one day,jesus and imam mahdi will come as our saviours…but,do we
hav to wait until that time?i m sure,at that time,only some of us who can witness the arrival of jesus and mahdi…
we hav the choice…we can stop fighting,and learn to respect each other…no matter who we are,mu’tazila,shia,sunni,khawarij,alevi…we must unite first…when all of our enemies defeated,we can continue finding ways to solve the prblem between us…shia must know abot the concept of taqiyya,right?now,we r still weak,the concept of taqiyya can be used between us now…we do like this,shia doesn’t care about sunni,and sunni also never care about shia….wat we need now is unity,only that….unity is so impotant at the moment…..please…think again
umm akhee no offence abu bakr stole fadak away from the prophets daughter crushed her under a door i dont think hes to good he called the prophets daughter a liar but wen the muslims went to compete in a face off with christians and said lanatullah ilal kazebeen lanat on the liar he only picked the most honest ppl he didnt pick abu bakr or his daughter he picked his own daughter fatima zahra and also abu bakr called prophet deluded so after all this is abu bakr good
SALAM BROTHER I LOVE YOUR SLAMS TOWARDS PPLE THAT JUST GO ON ABOUT RUBBISH WHEN IT COMES TO THE INFALLIBLE FAMILY (as)…KEEP KNOCKING THEM DOWN WITH THE TRUTH,,,,DONT EVER BACK DOWN…
hi guys,read my opinion(july 7TH)!!!!!the letter on 24th july is not from me,someone uses my name!!!may Allah forgive him for what he had done……
plzz…..stop all this…….christians r also like us….there r protestans in england,roman catholic in italy,orthodox in russia,but do they have fight between each other like us??????plzzzzz………………email me,[email protected]….or call this no. 60179832726…….
if NABI MUHAMMAD and SAIYIDINA ALI r stil alive today,i can’t imagine how they will feel…….ya allah,show them your mercy…..
i love you all that you have said about myimmam and all mankind immam ali hlliasallam well done toall of you ,i love all right thing you have told and said about imamme ali (please do not abuse anybody or any casst jast say god inshalla guides those who in egnorent and woh egnours the facts) love you ali akbar from dubai
Dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters in Islam, below is some of the lies that Shi'ites say about their 12 Imams, as some of you might have already known that the Shi'ites are different in many aspects of Islam….. But I'll tell you that the Shi'ites are Not Muslims since they insult Islam with all of their superstitions and lies about their 12 Imams, here are some of the many things that the Shi'ites say about their Imams. (please read all the other articles on shi'ites on this site)
“All the Imams are infallible just like the prophets. The Shi'ites derive their religion from their immaculate Imams” (Ibid, p. 22)
Well this is a clear statement of kufr from the Shi'ites, as you can see they admit that they derive their religion from their Imams, well this means that if a Shi'ite Imam made something that in the Qur'an was lawful, forbidden, the Shi'ites would follow their Imams… by this statement the Shi'ites have taken themselves outside Islam.
“By listening to the voice of a person, the Imams can tell if the person was destined to go to hell or to heaven; they would thus answer his questions accordingly” (Usool al Kafi, p. 185)
Dear Brothers and Sisters, as you can see the Shi'ites make their Imams out to be some God-like being, can't they see that this is Shirk (worshipping other than Allah, or associating partners with him).
“The Imams possess all the knowledge granted to angels, prophets and messengers” (Al-Kulaini, Al-kaafi, p.255.)
Well here is more shirk from the Shi'ites… How can an Imam, who is just a human, know the Unseen??? Only Allah knows the Unseen, and think about this… The Imams were not even Alive at the time of all of the prophets so here is a major contradiction in the Shi'ite faith!
“The Imams know when they will die, and they do not die except by their own choice” (Ibid, p: 258.)
Now, this is a clear statement of kufr. Only Allah knows when a man will die! And these Shi'ites say that their Imams can control when they die?? This is major kufr and shirk for any one to believe in all the things that the Shi'ites say about their Imams!
“The Imams have knowledge of whatever occurred in the past and whatever will happen in the future, and nothing is concealed from them” (Ibid, p. 260.)
Subhanallah!! Only Allah knows the future for any person to say that these Imams know the Unseen is committing Shirk and takes himself outside Islam.
“The Imams have knowledge of all the revealed books, regardless of the languages in which they were revealed” (Ibid, p. 227.)
As you can see these Shi'ites have elevated their Imams to a God-like level, and the Shi'ites say that there is nothing wrong with this!!! Now can we see why the Shi'ites are different to us muslims!
“No one compiled the Qur'an completely except the Imams, and they encompass all of its knowledge' (Ibid, p. 228)
So since the Qur'an was not compiled by the Imams then does that mean that the Quran is fabricated????? These Shi'ites want to even destroy Islam… look at what they say, they even insult the Qur'an!! And it is a well known fact that the Shi'ites have their own Qur'an (On this web site we have an article all about the false lies that the Shi'ites put in their own so called Qur'an).
“Signs of the prophets are possessed by the Imams” (Ibid, p. 231.) The Shi'ites have once again elevated their Imams to a very high level. The Imams they refer too are only human! So why do the Shi'ites worship them.
“When the Imams' time comes, they will rule in accordance with the ruling of the prophet David and his dynasty. These Imams will not need to ask for presentation of evidence before passing their judgments” (Ibid,p. 397.)
The Shi'ites even think that their Imams can do what ever they want!! Here they say that their Imams can just pass judgment on anybody! And they say that their Imams will not rule by the Qur'an but will rule by the laws of David!! (All Muslims must rule by the Qur'an and Sunnah). This is a proof that the awaited Imam of the Shi'ites is not the one that Muslims believe in but he is indeed the Anti-Christ (A'war al-Dajjal). The one that all Jews are waiting for him.
“There is not a single truth possessed by a people save that which originated with the Imams, and everything which did not proceed from them is false” (Ibid, p.277.)
The Shi'ites have proven themselves to be non-Muslims please dear brothers and sisters look at what these Shi'ites are saying, understand that the Shi'ites are really NOT Muslims!
Dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters, above is only a small fraction of what Shi'ites say about their Imams… their are many many Shi'ite books claiming the same thing as above about their Imams. So my Brothers and Sisters how can we call these Shi'ites 'Muslim' after what they say about their Imams, If a person worships Idols and does not follow the Qur'an is he a Muslim???? now the Shi'ites worship their Imams and they raise their Imams word over the Qur'an (they say that their Imams word abrogates the Qur'an), so dear Muslims make du'a that Allah guides us on the straight path and exposes the lies that the Shi'ites attribute to Islam, Ameen!
Salaam… Before you say anything as to what shi’ites is, please make your proper research as to the religion Islam… You might misinterpreted the words you’ve been reading as to the claims of the shi’ites regarding to the twelve imam…
Before you talk about other religon you have to know about your own. We don`t do any bomb blast anywhere etc.
but you know when imam ali killed and than imam hussain (aleihissalam) were killed it was for 100 of years and shias are bing killed still so i think it is no accident. first when you talk note who killed imam hussain it was yazid son of muaiya. muavia comes to power through OMAR. so when you don´t accept imam hussain as imam
have alitlle respect because he is from Hazrat Mohmmads family. hussain was the grandson of Mohammad. Omar was the one who had no respect bofore Mohammad, he ran away from battle etc. when you don´t believe this so read (BUKHARIS) books your own writter. Ali was the one who fought until the end for islam.
EXECPT WE SAY AT FIRST YA ALLAH; YA MOHMMAD; YA ALI; YA FATIMA; YA HASSAN AND HUSSAIN;YA MAHDI
do you know how omar was to Fatima the only doughter of Mohammad(alaihisalam) so i advice you to investigate about islam, sunni and shia. Ali never fought for power his sons also not. if they wanted power they had never fought they could also do like omar. but they didn´t . they sacrificed there life for islam.
I would say at the end that we don´t say ali at first we say allah, mohammad than ali, fatima , hassan , hussain and mahdi.
And yet yo ucan see..the devil is doing a good job making us Christians and muslim go against each other…the devils has tainted allot of hearts to think we are totally different…that the “other “is the religion of the devil and need to be killed…so many times we have been tricked by the devil..yet we never see that we are the same…i know we are but others that are blinded don't. it could most likely be the same and we been plagued through the years of the deity of darkness…God came to Earth in many forms and we never knew he was here..to blinded by the devils work…allot is the “unexaplined”.
shut de hell up yuh rasist basterd imma muslim n dnt wnt yuh to talk about meh reigion like det..
Salam:
Ali (as) is the best and one of the heighest positioned person of Allah. Every one has his own position. There are 124000 Propherts of Allah but there is only one Ali (A.s) who was sent for the goodness of the world, who remained like a light in evey one's heart, whose all Sons and Grand-sons were killed becouse they wanted peace. Ali(A.S) is the Imam of every person in the world and the successor of Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH).
yeah ALI is the best
Lets see how many people get it.
Prophet (SAWW) was both the NABI and RASOOL.
RISALAT and NABOOVAT are two different things.
1.) RISAALAT is tied to all the worldy matter or Shariyah about how to spend life and do things in this world.
2.) NABAOOVAT is the equivilant of Risalat in Rohhaniat. Means In the Rohani world NABOVVAT is what is applicable as Shariya. Shariyat is not applied on Rohani Duniya and example of which is that Namaaz is not FARZ on ROOOH.
Hazrat Ali Karam Allah Wajhu was the Khalifa-e-Naboovat, It doesn't mean he got the naboovat or he was Nabi.
Where Hazarat Abbu Bakar Siddiq (RATA) was the Khalifa of Risalat and took care of implimnetation of Shariat After Nabi Pak(Saww).
SO As Far as Hazarat Ali is concenred you guys can discuss for eternity and will not be able to even WET your feet in the oceans of Hazrat Ali's Daraja, and I think I don't even deserve to comment on that Darja so I stop myself as whatever I say cannot do Justice to Hazarat Ali's Darja. So everyeone should do that.
About Hazrat Abbu Bakar Siddiqui and all the other Khalifa's, We know how these Sahaba's have worked during and after Prophet (SAWW) for Islam and Prophet's sayings about all of them. And again we as muslim today cannot completly understand the RUTBA/DARJA of any of these great personalities.
SO LETS Recite Darood and Salam and pray for ourselves that Allah forgive all our comments that are not correct.
Wasalaam
Salams to all,
My respected brother/sister it seems that you don’t get this yourself even though you have a sub-header titled “Lets see how many people get it.!!
I’ll put it down to the fact that you have absolutely NO command or even an inkling of the Arabic grammar for if you did you would have corrected yourself instantly. Infact I shall go even further than that and also add that you are merely repeating what you have heard from one or some of your sheikhs, mullahs or muftis.
1) Â RISAALAT- is derived from the coreword ROSOL which means in essence “Message” as some Prophets of Allah (swt) did not come with any message of their own but proclaimed the message of other Prophets that had revelations brought unto them by the Almighty, such as, Isa (Jesus), Moosa (Moses), Dawood (David) etc.
For want of a better word or term for it then I’m afraid the best I can do is refer to it as an “Old Testament”. It is not a sharia for this material world as you have made it into.
2) NABOOWAT – is derived from the coreword NABA’A which in its essence means “News”. The reason being that although some prophets of The Almighty were plain missionaries who spread the word of the One true God to those it had not reached or to those that were transgressing & causing bloodshed. The element that discerns the Nabi from a Rasool is that the Nabi is a prophet of Allah who has been given a message that he must in turn deliver to mankind. So a Nabi is a “messenger” whilst a Rasool is simply just a prophet.
It is also worthy to note that there are prophets who were not prophets to begin with but because of their merits were appointed to that position whilst there were others who did not make it the rank of prophet but have been termed as chaste & pious persons. An example of such an individual is Dhul Qarnain, as mentioned in the Quran regarding the advent of Gog & Magog, who has been remembered & given a “special” mention but who did not even become a prophet. Then we also have Ibrahim (Abraham) who was not a prophet from the outset, like Mohammed (saww), Isa (a.s), Moosa (a.s) etc, but was elevated to new stations and ranks as his status grew with the passing of every test form the Almighty. In strict accordance with the Quran we learn this fact because the Quran originally portrays Ibrahim as just a good man then after passing a test is described as Khaleel-ullah i.e. Friend of Allah. After succeeding in another test he becomes Nabi and then in the same manner he becomes Imam.
So as you can see the stations have been described by the Almighty;
1) Salih (Good/Pure)
2) Khaleel/Muttaqqi (God-fearing/ Pious)
3)Nabi/Rasool (Messenger/Prophet)
4)Imam (Leader)
(please read commentary on surah al-A’ala to find out why prophet Ibrahim has been described as a Nabi and not rasool “Fi Suhuf e Ibraaheema wa Moosa.”)
So it is evident that Imam Ali & his progeny are higher in status than all prophets EXCEPT PROPHET MUHAMMAD (SAWW) and are the “best of all creation”. Find me any other group or individual that is remembered so much & his personality so much discussed that when alive Allah showered him & his progeny with praises in numerous places in the quran by revealing verses and even whole chapters to remind the universe until doomsday. The prophet has showered this person & his progeny with so much praise that it was at a point incumbent upon him to do so or else it would have amounted to “having done nothing for Allah at all”. Libraries are full of the heroics of this personality that when standing in battle gear mountains of enemies were brought to yield before the feet of Islam as though they were mere specks of dust and when stood in prayer became so oblivious to his surroundings that even an arrow can be pulled from his foot without Imam Ali even noticing. At times of great ordeal he would deal in patience no matter the risk of harm or even loss to himself so much so that it would be described as “Drinking from a cup a drink of thorns which I forced down my neck with every sip”.
Who is there from the beginninig of time unto the end of time that can ever compete with such a personality? The simple answer is no-one, not even the Khaliphs at the time, this is the reason why we find that every time there was an issue that the 3 caliphs could not resolve the ONLY door that they ran to was that of the honourable & exalted master of all believing men & women, Imam Ali (a.s). As encapsulated by Umar in his own words “Had it not been for Ali ibn Abi Talib then I, Umar, would have been detroyed” (Lo Laa Ali, Lahalaka Umar).
So bear these FACTS in mind the next time you want to make your false comparisons in an attempt to give your fake caliphs some recognition. Common sense dictates that if Allah is Lord of the Universes, His Beloved Prophet Muhammad is a mercy to all the universes then Ali is no less than the proof of Allah to all the universes.
The question is where does that leave all those that you revere so much?
Lets see how many people get it.
Prophet (SAWW) was both the NABI and RASOOL.
RISALAT and NABOOVAT are two different things.
1.) RISAALAT is tied to all the worldy matter or Shariyah about how to spend life and do things in this world.
2.) NABAOOVAT is the equivilant of Risalat in Rohhaniat. Means In the Rohani world NABOVVAT is what is applicable as Shariya. Shariyat is not applied on Rohani Duniya and example of which is that Namaaz is not FARZ on ROOOH.
Hazrat Ali Karam Allah Wajhu was the Khalifa-e-Naboovat, It doesn't mean he got the naboovat or he was Nabi.
Where Hazarat Abbu Bakar Siddiq (RATA) was the Khalifa of Risalat and took care of implimnetation of Shariat After Nabi Pak(Saww).
SO As Far as Hazarat Ali is concenred you guys can discuss for eternity and will not be able to even WET your feet in the oceans of Hazrat Ali's Daraja, and I think I don't even deserve to comment on that Darja so I stop myself as whatever I say cannot do Justice to Hazarat Ali's Darja. So everyeone should do that.
About Hazrat Abbu Bakar Siddiqui and all the other Khalifa's, We know how these Sahaba's have worked during and after Prophet (SAWW) for Islam and Prophet's sayings about all of them. And again we as muslim today cannot completly understand the RUTBA/DARJA of any of these great personalities.
SO LETS Recite Darood and Salam and pray for ourselves that Allah forgive all our comments that are not correct.
Wasalaam
salam 3alikom ya mohibeen immam ali
imaam ali aliyhi alsalaam is the greatest . sayedna Mohammad sala laah 3alihi wa aalihe salem allways was talking about immam ali he never spoke abut abo baker or 3oomar or the other so called sahaaba . dont get me wrong they r sahaba but not sahabat sayedna Mohammad thay r sahabat al gaaheliya and hobal and 3ezat the statues that sayedna ali 3alyhi alsalaam broke . + thay did not become musems willingly they serenaded to islaam . sahaba more like nasaaba.
sallam 3ala mohebin ali ibn abi taleb 3alihi al salaam